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Author:  LCG Admin [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  ProfiMail 2.xx Beta
Testing of 2.xx beta version is finished, now there's version 3.xx available for download.
Thanks to everyone who provided feedback.

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New features of version 2.94 beta:

Uploading draft messages to server
Draft messages are now uploaded to IMAP server Draft folder.

Working times
You can set time and week days when automatic update should work. This includes scheduled periodic updates, as well as automatic IMAP IDLE connection.
If you disable working times, then it's assumed that updating is done all the time without time limit.


Additionally this version contains fixed bugs.

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Features of version 2.93 beta:

IMAP IDLE
Long awaited IMAP IDLE mode, where IMAP mailboxes are connected to server, and updates in mailbox, such as new messages, deleted messages or changed flags, are reflected immediately in ProfiMail. No need for periodically checking IMAP mailboxes. And updating happens in background.
For details about how IMAP IDLE works in ProfiMail, and discussing possible improvements, visit separate topic: IMAP IDLE - how does it work

Using themes on S60 3rd edition and UIQ 3 phones
Now ProfiMail uses theme of your phone (on some OS versions). With phone themes, ProfiMail looks more like native phone application. (You can still use old plain predefined colors if you're used to them.)
So far this works on Symbian S60 3rd edition and UIQ3.
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IMAP deleted message purging option
Option to immediately purge deleted messages in IMAP folders (as it was until now), or to keep deleted messages on server, and possibly purge them manually.

More days for testing
Demo version now offers 30 non-contiguous days of testing, instead of 10 as it was before.
This feature is available only on Symbian phones, not on Windows Mobile.

Opening pictures from email body in separate viewer
If you have email with images in it, these pictures may be scaled down to fit screen. Now there's option to open such pictures in pictures viewer and zoom as you wish.

Fullscreen option
Option to draw application in fullscreen mode, or to show system area.

Opening contact cards (VCF) and calendar entry (VCS) files (Symbian S60 3rd edition)
Since S60 3rd edition system doesn't automatically open these files, ProfiMail has now support to use them - add contact entry to address book, and add calendar entry to calendar.
On other platforms these files are handles by operating system correctly.

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Features of version 2.92 beta:

Increased update/download speed
Greatly enhanced speed of downloading message headers and message bodies, for both IMAP and POP3. In contrast from previous versions, PM now downloads all new headers, then all needed message bodies.

Message flags
Ability to flag/unflag message. For IMAP accounts, the flag is synchronized with IMAP server. Visually there's little flag displayed for flagged messages. You can use flags for marking important messages.

Default signature
Select one signature, which will be automatically added to messages that you create or reply. This is done in Signatures editor. Auto-inserting may be also later deactivated.

Auto-complete email address from Address book
When composing mail, as you start typing email, all matching addresses and names are presented to you in list.

Key shortcut for selecting all messages
Use Shift+Right to select (mark) all messages in mailbox, and Shift+Left to clear selection. On Symbian, shift key is the "pen key" on some S60 phones, and '#' on other S60 phones. UIQ phones may or may not have Shift key.

Download messages only from last x days
On IMAP, a new option is added to see only last x days of mail. This replaces option "Number of messages to download...", and is much more friendly to data traffic amount in large mailboxes. With using this option, updating is also faster.

Rule action - play sound
You can setup to play some sound when certain message(s) arrive. This is found in Rules as new action. You may also specify volume of sound. If more different sound alerts are to be played, they're played one after another, so you don't miss some audio alert.

Copy text from received message
Added simple way of copying text from downloaded messages into clipboard. It's no more necessary to "reply" message, copy text from editor, and cancel replying.

Search in messages
Search in messages (IMAP folder or POP3 account), by 4 criteria - subject, message text, sender or receiver. Filtered matching messages will be presented to you. You can search again within returned results.

Address book option to sort by last name
Easily switch sorting order in Address book by first or last name.

Windows Mobile version usability improvements
WM Pocket PC (touch-screen devices) now use screen space better. Menubar at bottom (usually empty) is removed, and is displayed only when typing text. And with small button at top right you can expand ProfiMail to use full screen.
WM Smartphone (non-touch-screen devices) now use key # in place of Shift, so it is possible to easy mark multi-selection.
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Dropped functionality:
- Partial message download (limited max. KB) for IMAP is no longer supported. This is not much needed as there's option to download message text without attachments.
- Older POP3 servers without UIDL/TOP commands are not supported. There're not many of these at present.
- Support for old Symbian 6.1 phones: Nokia 3650, 3620, 3660, N-gage, Sendo X, Siemens SX1


Users can use this version same way as official last version (for normal use or as demo). Don't install it if possible new bugs may interrupt your work, we don't guarantee 100% functionality, and new bugs may be present in this version that we yet don't know about.

Because some things changed, this version will forget previously downloaded messages, and you need to download them again.

If you find problems with above mentioned new functionality, please write feedback in this forum. Don't post off-topic (requests for new features or reporting bugs not related to this new version), unrelated posts will be deleted to keep discussion clear.

Thanks for checking this new version.
LCG
Author:  miguelcruz [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ProfiMail 2.92 Beta
LCG Admin wrote:
Dropped functionality:
- Partial message download (limited max. KB) for IMAP is no longer supported. This is not much needed as there's option to download message text without attachments.

WHAT???

I get dozens of server log emails every day. They are plain text and many of them are up in the megabytes. I skip over them in Profimail and skim through them later on when I am at the computer.

I also get huge spam messages now and then.

If I am going to have to pay - and wait - to download all these over GPRS at whatever-per-KB then Profimail becomes totally useless for me.
Author:  LCG Admin [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:52 pm ]
Post subject: 
Set up Rule for not downloading such message body. You'll see header, and you can decide what to do with the message.
Author:  Sunil [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:06 am ]
Post subject: 
Btw can we've an option.. thru which we can set the signature for that particular account..

Like signature 1 for account 1,signature 2 for account 2 so on and so forth

at present,there's a provision for setting the signature to default.. (for all accounts,same signature)

sorry for going off topic!
Author:  LCG Admin [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:48 pm ]
Post subject: 
maddler wrote:
Not sure that "download messages from X last days" is better than "download last X messages".


Definitely better, because search by date may be done by IMAP server, and client works with subset of messages. While for last x messages PM had to check all existing messages locally, resulting in big data transfers if mailbox is big.
Author:  peteding [ Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:28 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
Dropped functionality:
- Partial message download (limited max. KB) for IMAP is no longer supported. This is not much needed as there's option to download message text without attachments.


Can this be reinstated? I use this to limit the size of the mail to download. U know there is a tendency for people to include trails of emails.

regards
Author:  lexluthor [ Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ProfiMail 2.92 Beta
LCG Admin wrote:

[i]Dropped functionality:
- Partial message download (limited max. KB) for IMAP is no longer supported. This is not much needed as there's option to download message text without attachments.


I don't like this at all. I have some messages that go back and forth quite a bit and can wind up being 300K.

I liked being able to limit the max message to something like 100K, especially since my phone has a slow net connection.

It was also handy to have download attachments on, but limit message to 100K. That way, the voicemails that were small, would automatically get downloaded, but other larger attachments wouldn't.

Any chance of getting that back?

Also, maybe I missed something in there, but in WM beta, is there any easier way to mark a single message yet?

The problem with the lost screen real estate when the message preview is off has been fixed in this. Thanks.
Author:  apathy [ Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ProfiMail 2.92 Beta
LCG Admin wrote:

Download messages only from last x days


Can I suggest you add a message when emails are not downloaded because of this new feature?

My user experience of upgrading to the beta was the some of my folders were empty after the update and I think you will get a lot of support questions on this one with users mistakenly reporting a problem, especially because the option is well hidden.

Perhaps something like "No more messages from the last x days. Setting can be changed in the Advanced Settings area" should be shown?

James
Author:  maddler [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:04 am ]
Post subject: 
Carlosml wrote:
The big "Bug?" for me, is that if you put one mail message in the screen (read one mail) and don´t back to the "inbox" or to the root account mail list on end read it, profimail not update any account. The update accounts is off while read mail messages.


If you use IMAP IDLE mailbox are being aways updated (just checked).

Carlosml wrote:
And....Is possible autostart profimail on power on the phone option?


You could give a try to Powerboot (http://www.symbian-freeware.com/download-powerboot.html).
Author:  oslo104h [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Rules which move emails in connection with IDLE
Great work. Especially the IMAP-IDLE function!
But I can't see the advantage in using a rule which moves emails in another folder in connection with IDLE function. When I do this
- I don't notice that I got an new email
- can't see in which folder it was moved

Couldn't Profimail update the folder automatically in which the mail was moved to or wait with moving until I noticed that there is a new mail in my INBOX and give an advice in which folder it was put in.
Author:  maddler [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  IMAP IDLE errors
Quick question about IMAP-IDLE. Every now and then one of my configured IMAP-IDLE mailboxes fails to connect (Still trying to understand why). Now the question is, if a mailbox/account cannot be updated (red icon), will Profimail wait until next "programmed" check before re-establishing connection and have IMPA-IDLE work again?

Is there a way to get an extended profimail log?

Thanks
Author:  Sunil [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IMAP IDLE errors
maddler wrote:
if a mailbox/account cannot be updated (red icon), will Profimail wait until next "programmed" check before re-establishing connection and have IMPA-IDLE work again?

no,if imap idle fails to establish connection,then it is re connected after five minutes,thats the default time interval set.

Hope this help
Author:  maddler [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IMAP IDLE errors
sunil_india wrote:
maddler wrote:
if a mailbox/account cannot be updated (red icon), will Profimail wait until next "programmed" check before re-establishing connection and have IMPA-IDLE work again?

no,if imap idle fails to establish connection,then it is re connected after five minutes,thats the default time interval set.

Hope this help


That would have been better to have something like "retry on error".
Can that inteval be changed?

EDIT:
answer to mysel: no, as of now (2.93 b1) retry interval cannot be changed. :)
Author:  Isambard Mews [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:15 pm ]
Post subject: 
Crash situation:

Mailbox is on imap idle- multiple folders. IMAP idle only updates inbox by design so you need to press 'u' to update other folders.

When press 'u'. download of emails is slow and results in program crashing.

will try re-install and disable imap idle.
Author:  jcompagner [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:16 pm ]
Post subject: 
hmm what i now miss now we got push is integration with the desk.
I know that making those plugins cant really be done by thirtparty applications (which is really stupid if you ask me, nokia should fix that)

But is it possible to store the mails that profimail gets in the "central" message store so that the phone does see it?

how does for example that new nokia service work with new mail? Because i think that one did report it. that software doesnt really work for the rest but i think that it did.
Author:  gferreroferri [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:  IMAP idle problem
Hi,
I have been having some problems with IMAP idle, specially when I read some emails in my computer, they do not seem to update the read status on Profimail. Only if I exit completly Profimail and run it again, I get them updated. Hope this is fixed for the latest version.
G.
Author:  kodiak [ Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:39 am ]
Post subject: 
Note: LCG Admins trim posts when they think they have addressed specific issues. For example, this post originally had 4 bugs listed but, as of 10/13/08, it had been trimmed to one. FYI


some feedback on v2.93b2 so far. this is all on symbian s60 with a Nokia E71 and a dovecot v1.0.13 IMAP server on the backend.

Bugs

  1. In Message view, delete message move to next message while staying in Message view. this was mentioned elsewhere but repeating here since v2.93b2 appears to do only part of the requested behavior (moves to next message but back in Message List screen).

Behavior/Display requests
  1. Non-Full screen display changes. when in non-full screen mode. please consider moving the text currently in top row of list display screens into the system area at the top of the screen. the images below show basically what i mean. the basic idea is to recover some screen real estate to view lists or messages.

    Image
    in image above. the ProfiMail top row is redundant when in non-full screen mode.

    Image
    in the image above, the "<account> - IMAP folders" (or just "<account>") could be moved into the system area.

    Image
    in the image above, the "<account> - <folder>" could be moved into the system area. if the graphic for IDLE mode can't be put in the system header, then a text representation would be appropriate (i.e. +, -, !, x for the four modes).
  2. Support "text=flowed; delsp=yes" from RFC 3676. see feature request in the following post:
    http://www.lonelycatgames.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6170
  3. Remember last selected message in each folder. make this a configurable option so those users wishing to return to previously selected message in a folder are able to do so. consider if your TV returned to channel 1 each time you turn it off then on. :D see following post for more information:
    http://www.lonelycatgames.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6163
  4. Collapsed Tree Folder view in Folder list screen and "Move to Folder". this would provide a much improved navigation experience. see feature request in the following post:
    http://www.lonelycatgames.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6175
  5. Allow offline moves of messages to folders. without this option, working with email on phone from an airplane is less useful.
  6. Add LSUB support for Folder list. previous posts have suggested this would be added but i don't think it has as of yet.



thanks again for consideration.[/b]
Author:  assid [ Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:29 am ]
Post subject: 
Brilliant! Must say, with the new themes, imap idle, its considerably better than push mail. Why depend on a third party vendor, when you can do it yourself!?

I checked the battery consumption, general phone without having ANY LOADS whatsoever, no background tasks, nothing, you have 0.17W of power consumption, with this its 0.23-0.25 average. which is still less than a call. As a matter of fact it drops a little again once the backlight goes off.

The only reason it goes up is because of background applications needing the cpu. And ARM processors arent really the best where multi tasking is concerned. They are pretty good where power consumption is concerned however.

So under these circumstances. I think this is a great job.
Author:  jcompagner [ Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:50 am ]
Post subject: 
i also dont notice a bit bigger power consumption, i have profi mail over wifi connected the whole day or over gprs/umts the whole day but that doesnt really bring down the battery bars on my e90

i think when there is no data going over the line the wifi or gprs/umts connections dont really drain much power. Because if i am home then voip as far as i know also have a constant connection (i have a constant wifi connection when i am at home) but that doesnt drop the bars also much faster.
Author:  assid [ Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:59 am ]
Post subject: 
jcompagner wrote:
i also dont notice a bit bigger power consumption, i have profi mail over wifi connected the whole day or over gprs/umts the whole day but that doesnt really bring down the battery bars on my e90

i think when there is no data going over the line the wifi or gprs/umts connections dont really drain much power. Because if i am home then voip as far as i know also have a constant connection (i have a constant wifi connection when i am at home) but that doesnt drop the bars also much faster.


Actually I was playing around with voip /related before i checked this. VoIP uses around 0.30-0.33w of power. This was over wifi. So no real power loss there. Specially if your not too far away from the router. You have to remember tho, it depends on how strong your network connection is as well.

Even in normal calls, if you are in a location with very little signal, you will tend to use more power as your phone will keep trying alternate cell towers to try and get a better signal lock. Not to mention the amount of power required to push to a cell tower which shows less signal = less hearing from your phone. So it has to push more power to reach that tower.

Same rule applies to wifi as well.
Author:  jcompagner [ Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:17 am ]
Post subject: 
the latest beta 3 looks way better yes cool

I only would also drop the gray border around the inbox completely and let it blend it (maybe with show shadow you have now) Because especially on the front screen of my E90 this does take in some space and personally i dont find that gray border very nice to see.
Author:  assid [ Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:59 am ]
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Yes I agree with you on the border/shadow thing, I really prefer without it.

As far as deleting messages goes, yes, this happens in many email clients. When 2 clients connect to the same imap account, and you delete it through 1 client, the other client will get it as MARKED as deleted. You still need to purge the message. The only time it purges is IF you sync, as you can see.

Since profimail caches a local copy, you need to have that deleted as well. The simplest way is to undelete your copy and then delete it again. This will knock off the local copy.

I am not sure if this first uploads a copy to the server then redeletes it. This is something I have NOT checked, but at the sheer speed it did it, i dont think it did. So personally, I think that part is behaving like other email clients.
Author:  jcompagner [ Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:16 am ]
Post subject: 
ok if i just get that marked as deleted then i would be nice that if i just pres U that then those are purged/removed completely. For me personally if a marked as deleted comes in that purging can be done auto i wouldnt mind that at all.

Is this a setting on the imap server? So can imap send "removed" or something like that? Of is it always marked as deleted?
Author:  Emm [ Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Keeping the connection open
The option for keeping the connection open seems to have vanished in 2.93 beta 2: if I wait too long between two mailbox updates, Profimail closes the connection and I have to pay for another 100 KByte block (while roaming).
Is there any way to get back the old behavior? (IMAP IDLE is not supported by the server.)
Author:  houbs [ Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:39 am ]
Post subject: 
I am using Nokia E71 and here is features I'd like to have when using PofiMail:
- Standard Symbian noitifications
- Link with phone profiles (ex: silent, outdoor, vibration, ...)
- Possibility to set IMAP IDLE time periods (ex: enable from 8am to 8pm, ...)
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